architects or designers? Who is the more organised?

The question started to be debated two weeks ago while we were presenting our exploration themes. Arriving here, coming from architecture and having seen only messy agencies during my internships, I discovered the gap between the vision we had on both sides of the work method of the other one. Each side thinks the other one is more organised and the process method is more rigorous. Without doubt designers win, in architecture we've never heard about any protocol in any school.